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Post by amyk on Sept 21, 2020 22:49:10 GMT -5
Maybe Hannibal was fooled by Charlotte because he didn't expect Decker to use someone so obviously and truthfully in the military as a ruse....maybe Decker is finally starting to think like Hannibal!
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Post by Eclipse139 on Sept 28, 2020 15:29:20 GMT -5
It was quite cruel of Decker to use Charlotte's grief to get to Hannibal and the team. I don't think Hannibal would use anyone like that, especially not a woman.
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Post by amyk on Aug 13, 2022 20:57:15 GMT -5
I just finished watching this one again, and I really enjoyed it tonight. I wonder what happened to the 'Vette after Murdock and Face caused the van loaded with some of the weapons (near the end of the episode) to flip and captured the guys that were in the van. They seem to have returned those guys back to the beach house, so the bad guys were all tied up together, but then the team escaped in the van with no mention of the 'Vette when they heard Decker coming.
Also, I think that beach house is likely the same one used in THE DOCTOR IS OUT.
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Post by Pico Bob on Aug 28, 2022 7:43:33 GMT -5
Good spot Amyk - another abandoned Vette to go along with the one left at the bad guy's house in TAXI CAB WARS!
I agree about the beach house reappearing in DOCTOR. I have a strong suspicion that it's also the place with the jacuzzi where they take Fulbright and the woman in THUNDER.
Ive seen the place used in at least one Rockford ep. The house was actually situated on the same beach as Rockford's trailer - Paradise Cove in Malibu. The A-Team filmed several other times in that location without using the beach house. Sadly, I don't think the house is there any more, judging from Google maps. The old house appears to have been replaced with something grander and larger.
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Post by amyk on Aug 28, 2022 18:25:15 GMT -5
Maybe the 'Vette is magic and, like a homing pigeon, always comes back to Face!
I wonder if that was someone's house connected with the TV industry or maybe even connected with SJC, based on his connection to both Rockford and A-TEAM.
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Post by HoudiniDerek on Aug 29, 2022 7:43:37 GMT -5
Some places are known to producers and such as being able to easily film at and use, so that could be part of it. Plus, it was in GAH. So since all three are SJC productions, it might be that it was easy to use multiple times in multiple shows.
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Post by Katia on May 28, 2023 21:51:02 GMT -5
I do enjoy this episode. I like TV Murdock, especially when he does that whole I LOVE MURDOCK scene. LOL. I was randomly humming "I love Murdock and he loves me!" for days. I'm not even an I Love Lucy fan, which apparently is a good thing because I'd never get the theme song out of my head... Of his shticks, this is one of his better ones, IMO-- it's silly and funny, and it's weird but it doesn't not make sense like some of them do. (I'd love it if we had some backstory into why he does some of these, though-- that could also be a fun recurring thing. Like, we do know some of them are stuff he's assigned in therapy. But it'd be nice if the others had some rhyme or reason to them. Like, maybe he was reading about something lately, or had a weird dream recently, or was watching a certain TV show/movie/listening to a certain song, or had a conversation with someone {that could be a good one, if he got the idea from something a fellow patient did/said}, or whatever, that gave him the ideas.)
This episode is actually one of my favourites. It's because of that moment when Murdock does his angry walk. Remember? Tawnia's discovered and Murdock runs to her rescue and he goes in to save her? That little bit about leaving the safety on is funny too. I really liked that moment. I LOVE seeing Murdock heroic like that. <<swoon>> I wish I remembered this part... Well done! But see, that is one of the moments that defines Murdock for me. He's acting a fool with the remote control the whole time. He's harassing BA with his shtick. He's being silly. But then boom, he turns it off... Runs inside... Focused, directed, defensive... Goes to her rescue, puts her behind him... Then when the situation is under control, he turns it back on and does something silly... He's such a great character. Yes, that's Murdock to a T and the best argument for why he's not really insane-- he can turn it off. And, his loyalty is his most defining thing: he can be weird, silly, dorky, annoying... but you don't mess with his friends. That's the only time you see Murdock become truly scary, is when he's mad about someone he cares about being put in danger.
Going off on a tangent, but I feel like Murdock is the most obviously loyal of all of them, IMO-- he's the one where you see it most. I've always wondered if it's because A. they're largely all he's got (after all, he once says his psychiatrist is the fourth most important person in his life), and B. because they accept him and include him, despite his quirks (I mentioned something about that once briefly in part of a story), which might be a big deal to him.
Is this the only time Hannibal was fooled by a client? He was usually so good at identifying fake clients and putting them through intense tests. In "It's harder than it looks", the client's daughter (was her name Jenny?) was the girlfriend of one of the baddies who had kidnapped her and didn't want to be rescued. I'm not sure Hannibal saw that one coming! And then her father went and grassed the team up to the Military at the end! In "Moving Targets" the Eastern Princess was also involved with the bad guy and set the team up to get captured. Although I suspect Hannibal probably knew she was the leak! In "BEAST" the air controller and I think the guy who originally hired them was gonna let them crash the plane into the ocean. Good old Amy saved the day. The guys owed her big time for that! And even though Frankie wasn't a client, I think Hannibal was gutted when he found out he was Stockwell's mole. There was also "The Sound of Thunder," though I don't know that really counts, but they were sort of tricked by Fulbright, I guess. In "Beast," though, it wasn't that anyone double-crossed them... they just were trying to protect people. It wasn't that they had anything against the team or intended from the beginning to do anything against them; they just didn't want a plane crashing in a populated area. I have to admit, at first I understood their thinking (but then realized that any accident was most likely to happen during landing, which wouldn't put that many people at risk since presumably they'd be smart enough to clear surrounding runways and also have the fire crew on hand the same way they do if anyone's coming in hot somehow).
I'm wondering how many of these scripts were originally written for Amy? I would have loved it even more if Murdock had gone rushing in to save Amy! Awwwww. I never thought of that. *Sniff*
And yes, I would've loved him rescuing Amy, too, because Amy had (IMO) a genuine camaraderie with them, more than Tawnia did. Although I guess saving Tawnia says something, too-- even if she annoyed them sometimes/they may not have liked her as much as Amy, they'd still save her, because she's a person and because she's "theirs."
As for Harnett, I thought Tawnia was brave doing that. Makes me wonder if she was going to tell her fiance about all of her jobs with the paper and the team. My wife says no, she wouldn't tell him, even if he asked.  Ooooh, interesting question. I think she might. Brian's the adventurous sort of guy, it seems, so I think he'd be fine with it (hey, if he asked me, I'd tell him he'd damn well better be fine with it, since it was her association with the team that saved his arse). He'd probably have fun hearing her stories. (And, I like to think she hooked up with a guy from whom she didn't have to hide anything about who she is.)
It was quite cruel of Decker to use Charlotte's grief to get to Hannibal and the team. I don't think Hannibal would use anyone like that, especially not a woman. OTOH, you might say he also got her a resolution to her problem? |
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Post by amyk on May 31, 2023 16:54:17 GMT -5
Also, Charlotte was in the military, so technically she should be helping the military to capture these guys if she had any possible means to help them do that, if she really thought they were "criminals."
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Post by Katia on Jun 2, 2023 22:15:23 GMT -5
True. She's following orders and doing what is expected of her.
May have been an interesting plot point where instead of her seeking them out (and being sent to do so by Decker), she meets up with them in the course of trying to find out about her brother, they offer to help, and then somewhere along the way she finds out who they are and has to wrestle with her conscience: should she be a good soldier and turn them in, or not...
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Post by amyk on Jun 3, 2023 17:48:57 GMT -5
Gives me an idea for another thread....
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Post by hannibal1295 on Dec 2, 2023 6:02:33 GMT -5
Just watched this episode...it was great! I had to laugh so many times...  And this one was another "piece of evidence" that in my opinion Murdock is one of the if not the "most insane" character on TV.... And by the way....it was one of these times where they got "trapped" by Decker, it was kinda weird that on the one hand she needed help and on the other she was one of Deckers "trapps" to catch them... Wasnt this the only time (in the all the seasons) where there was someone who was a trapp by Decker and on the otherhand wanted/needed help? |
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Post by amyk on Dec 2, 2023 22:06:45 GMT -5
I can't remember another time that the "trapper" was also someone who needed the team's help.
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Post by Katia on Dec 3, 2023 20:22:22 GMT -5
I think that's pretty clever of Decker... killing two birds with one stone. She got to find out about her brother, and he got a go at the A-Team. (Part of me would like to think that was a bit of a kindness on Decker's part, but, I don't think they meant him to be that kind of character, so likely it was just him being opportunistic/using her.)
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Post by hasford1978 on Dec 4, 2023 16:42:12 GMT -5
Good eye Amyk, all these years I've never really thought it could even be the same location but now you mentioned it yeah that beach house must be the same location as The doctor is out..
I have often thought about the times Face has left his Vette behind to jump in the van with the others, he did the exact same thing in Incident at Crystal Lake didn't he?
No chance I'd leave a car like that just abandoned not even for a few hours, wouldn't you think Decker would've confiscated Face's car because he could've done just that In say it with bullets and Incident at Crystal Lake and knowing how protective Face is with his prized Vette try and lure the guys out to rescue the car back somehow?
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Post by Katia on Dec 4, 2023 17:10:04 GMT -5
...and there's a good idea for an episode! (I need to start a thread for ideas for episodes/jobs.)
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