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Post by amyk on Sept 6, 2017 20:47:35 GMT -5
I always love it so much when Captain Crane says, "That's BA Baracus' van!" So they obviously know exactly what van the team uses and it is not exactly one that just blends in with all the other vehicles. This makes it all the funnier that they never seem to be able to find the team. Yes, I also like it that everything is not exact and perfect.
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Post by kellie on Sept 7, 2017 12:53:52 GMT -5
My dad said that exact same thing the other day while watching one of them!. He laughed his head off & said, you would think they'd just look out for the van! He said, there'll never be another show like it! I thought, it's true, they try & make everything so perfect & everything with a lot of shows & that's what sets the A Team apart from others, aswell as casting the 4 guys so perfectly, that it's unique.
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Post by sprout1883 on Jul 13, 2020 15:53:43 GMT -5
Up to this on my re-watch.
It's a fun one, but the fake A-Team idea feels a little wasted in this episode and could have been used better. I just think the surrounding for the idea could have been better, if it was more along the lines of INSANE WAYNE and had a more serious edge to it
As for the Murdock 'inconsistency' I can write that off partly to Lynch getting another chance and he seems stubborn enough to not find anything out that may have happened in the meantime and not really caring about H.M to his own detriment.
I can imagine Lynch getting a call he has another shot and opening a filing cabinet of all his old Files without bothering to find out what has been going on.
Plus even allowing for knowing of Murdock, what are the Military going to do? They can't sit on the VA 24/7. Much like the joke about the Van, they can't sit on it 24/7 even though they know about it, How many times do they escape and would have to start again
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Post by Eclipse139 on Sept 1, 2020 15:02:42 GMT -5
Rewatched this episode today. Like you've said before in this thread, parts of the plot don't really make sense, but it's so much fun it really doesn't matter! One thing that's particulary silly in this ep is when the newspaper article first appears, everyone from Face's barman friend to the children at BAs daycare centre all seem to know that they are members of The A Team! If the barman really was an old army pal of Face's then it's plausible that he may know, but surely BA doesn't tell all the children (or their parents, or the other adults he works with) that he's a fugitive on the run? I love your idea, Amy, that the reason Decker has been pulled away from chasing The A Team - albeit temporarily - is because he's in some kind of trouble for the way he treated Mickey in THE ISLAND. It's a perfectly valid reason for his absence and it would have been great if there had been that kind of continuity. I love how poor Murdock gets upset because there's no fake version of him in the fake A Team and how Hannibal reassures him that he's just as much a member of the team as the others (and that he's their "secret weapon" ) The way Hannibal jumps on the horse and stops the runaway truck is brilliant, I love it when he goes full on action hero!
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Post by amyk on Sept 1, 2020 17:49:48 GMT -5
The kids at the daycare don't even know what the other kid that brings the newspaper is upset about, right? Don't they just walk away from BA without even seeing what the newspaper says? (It's been a while since I watched this episode...)
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Post by HoudiniDerek on Sept 1, 2020 20:43:01 GMT -5
The kids at the daycare don't even know what the other kid that brings the newspaper is upset about, right? Don't they just walk away from BA without even seeing what the newspaper says? (It's been a while since I watched this episode...) Yes. It's like the kid was there before, told the other kids, and left. Then, he comes back to hand B.A. the newspaper and they all truck out behind the original kid. I get the impetus, but weird scene. Feels like we missed something. Face's scene was much more realistic.
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Post by Eclipse139 on Sept 4, 2020 14:14:41 GMT -5
The kids at the daycare don't even know what the other kid that brings the newspaper is upset about, right? Don't they just walk away from BA without even seeing what the newspaper says? (It's been a while since I watched this episode...) Yes. It's like the kid was there before, told the other kids, and left. Then, he comes back to hand B.A. the newspaper and they all truck out behind the original kid. I get the impetus, but weird scene. Feels like we missed something. Face's scene was much more realistic. I wonder if there were originally lines for the other boys to say when they showed him the newspaper, but they decided to film the scene without them for some reason? I suppose they didn't want to spend too much time on the set up. It really doesn't make sense, though, that the kids would see a story written about The A Team and already know that BA is one of them - he really should be keeping quiet about that!
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Post by hannibal1295 on Mar 24, 2024 6:38:55 GMT -5
I liked the end of this episode. It was a great idea to put the owner of the show and his dautgher in the van, but I found it akward that they drove right on the truck. I mean it was perfect for them but why thought Col. Lynch this would work, under normal circonstances the A-Team would NEVER do that,right? And I laughed so hard when the A-Team members themselves drove the van of the army base.
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Post by amyk on Mar 25, 2024 18:00:18 GMT -5
I remember that I used to have to stop the DVD and go back to see the team members sneaking up into the van. I don't think I caught that originally!
I think they portray Col. Lynch as somewhat dense, so maybe he did believe that the A-Team drove the van right into the truck.
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Post by hannibal1295 on Mar 30, 2024 4:27:43 GMT -5
I think they portray Col. Lynch as somewhat dense, so maybe he did believe that the A-Team drove the van right into the truck.
Yea that sounds like a good explanation.
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Post by Katia on Mar 30, 2024 18:16:22 GMT -5
(Like would a fairly small-time Wild West show like this really get booked to play in the capital cities of Europe? This is what I wondered. Like... I can't imagine "wild west" would be a thing popular in Europe. It's only a "thing" here because it's American history. (But maybe in Europe it would be seen as "exotic"? No idea.) I actually think it is best that they did not have a Murdock, and it makes sense with the rest of the series since technically Murdock is not a wanted fugitive like the rest of the team. And they need to keep him as their secret weapon. Yes, exactly. I admit I was confused at the beginning of the episode, though... why do they have Pseudo!Face dressed more like Murdock (plaid flannel shirt, khakis, etc.) than Face? I mean, I know Face will rock a plaid flannel shirt sometimes-- on him I'm sure he's going more for the "LL Bean" look-- but if I were going to dress up someone as Face, that's not the style I would've gone for.
He seems to be out of that hospital more than he's in it! I guess it's not supposed to completely make sense. Gotta love it! Yes! IIRC, there's a part of my Sidney Freedman crossover where Murdock makes some funny remark about how he doesn't get out much, and Sidney drily retorts, "Sounds to me like you get out plenty," or something like that. (Sidney has seriously got Murdock's number.) Yeah, there seems to be some inconsistency about that....but also I think the MPs are just really not very smart. In this show, little makes logical sense, including the fact that both the Army and the VA are unbelievably (literally unbelievably) dumb. But it's true that that *is* part of the charm... like... you almost have to think it's deliberate and stylistic, rather than that the writers actually thought things could make so little sense/we'd actually buy it as serious. Plus even allowing for knowing of Murdock, what are the Military going to do? They can't sit on the VA 24/7. Much like the joke about the Van, they can't sit on it 24/7 even though they know about it, How many times do they escape and would have to start again Well, they could do plenty of investigative work to find out about the team-- after all, yet another illogical thing is that they never track down people who the team has helped/were witnesses and talk to them. As I've said before: out of all the people who have encountered the team-- including bad guys they took down who'd love to sing just to get back at them or to get a break on their own sentences-- there's no way there isn't even one who either wants to get their hands on the reward money or is swayed by military threats. So they could absolutely start building a profile on how the team operates and moves, the kind of jobs they accept and the precautions they take, who they're likely to interact with, etc. Spot surveillance, or possibly 24/7 if they have intel the guys may be close to a job. Have the VA contact them any time Murdock leaves. Etc. I mean, law enforcement builds cases on people all the time. And that's how they do it. They don't just rely on tripping over stuff or having stuff dumped into their laps. The Army could do the same, and I have no doubt Decker is smart enough to do it. It's just that it works better for the plot if they're completely incompetent.
One thing that's particulary silly in this ep is when the newspaper article first appears, everyone from Face's barman friend to the children at BAs daycare centre all seem to know that they are members of The A Team! If the barman really was an old army pal of Face's then it's plausible that he may know, but surely BA doesn't tell all the children (or their parents, or the other adults he works with) that he's a fugitive on the run? And, I mean, why wouldn't they know? The guys are splashed all over the newspapers all the time. And again: really, out of all the people they encounter every day, nobody decides to be a hero or get rich and turn them in?? And as I also noted... all of these people are mad at all of the alleged stuff the team did... except... they know that the team hasn't gone anywhere lately (since these are people who see them regularly), so why do they believe it? I liked the end of this episode. It was a great idea to put the owner of the show and his dautgher in the van, but I found it akward that they drove right on the truck. I mean it was perfect for them but why thought Col. Lynch this would work, under normal circonstances the A-Team would NEVER do that,right? Lynch was never exactly the sharpest pencil in the cup.
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Post by hannibal1295 on Apr 6, 2024 5:18:47 GMT -5
(Like would a fairly small-time Wild West show like this really get booked to play in the capital cities of Europe? This is what I wondered. Like... I can't imagine "wild west" would be a thing popular in Europe. It's only a "thing" here because it's American history. (But maybe in Europe it would be seen as "exotic"? No idea.)
Since iam from europe (germany) I can tell you my own opinion on that, but I dont know that there are many others like me out here....
I love the USA and I love western movies,one of my favourites is John Wayne of course. So iam pretty interested in the "wild west"....but I cant speak for everyone else around here....
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Post by HoudiniDerek on Apr 6, 2024 16:50:35 GMT -5
This is what I wondered. Like... I can't imagine "wild west" would be a thing popular in Europe. It's only a "thing" here because it's American history. (But maybe in Europe it would be seen as "exotic"? No idea.) Since iam from europe (germany) I can tell you my own opinion on that, but I dont know that there are many others like me out here.... I love the USA and I love western movies,one of my favourites is John Wayne of course. So iam pretty interested in the "wild west"....but I cant speak for everyone else around here....
Buffalo Bill was huge in Europe back in the day. I could see it still being a thrilling spectacular in Europe in the 1980s.
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Post by amyk on Apr 6, 2024 21:05:55 GMT -5
This is what I wondered. Like... I can't imagine "wild west" would be a thing popular in Europe. It's only a "thing" here because it's American history. (But maybe in Europe it would be seen as "exotic"? No idea.) Since iam from europe (germany) I can tell you my own opinion on that, but I dont know that there are many others like me out here.... I love the USA and I love western movies,one of my favourites is John Wayne of course. So iam pretty interested in the "wild west"....but I cant speak for everyone else around here....
I guess Americans turn out to watch things like Irish clog dancing shows and go to events portraying culture and/or history from other countries. So maybe it is not entirely out of the realm of reality that a "wild west show" could get booked to play in some European cities then.
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