One More Time - Episode 11

[Paper Crane Song]

Yeah... hmm ok well that's good to know there are some excellent episodes in there! I am just afraid of losing respect for the characters. But i think I'll just have to bite the bullet and go with it. And as you say, use it for fanfic fodder if i feel the need to fix certain aspects!

[amyk]

You definitely need to watch season 5. There are at least two episodes that are way at the bottom of the barrel for me, but there are things that happen in season 5 which are important to know about, especially if you like fanfiction because some fanfiction probably references some of those things, if it takes place after season 5. My fanfiction scripts, for the most part, would not make sense to you without knowing what happens in all of season 5.

[scott]

One More Time is one of my favorites. I watched and recorded most of the series during it's original NBC broadcast, and I played this one over and over a lot. When originally watching the episode, I was shocked that Peppard was actually allowed to ride on the choppers skid. It's only up a few feet off the ground, but considering it was less than a year after the tragic Twilight Zone movie helicopter accident one would think the production would be more careful. Although in my opinion, that's not as bad as the choppers rotors whacking off tree limbs while chasing the train in Range Rider.

Also, anyone notice that the close up of Hannibal firing at the troops while Face is trying to free himself, it was shot later because the helicopters stripes in the close up are red, as opposed to the green seen on the chopper in the wide shots. Looks like the red striped chopper in the close up, was probably the chopper seen in West Coast Turnaround. A bit of trivia on the green striped helicopter, you can see it's registration number N2044C, it later was turned into the famous red, white, and blue Santini Air helicopter seen in Airwolf.

Probably the worst double is seen in this episode, as Face is grabbing the chopper skid, you can see what's supposed to be the general except he's a lot younger guy with a FULL HEAD OF HAIR...LOL!

[HoudiniDerek]

Mar 9, 2020 2:20:23 GMT -5 scott said:

One More Time is one of my favorites. I watched and recorded most of the series during it's original NBC broadcast, and I played this one over and over a lot. When originally watching the episode, I was shocked that Peppard was actually allowed to ride on the choppers skid. It's only up a few feet off the ground, but considering it was less than a year after the tragic Twilight Zone movie helicopter accident one would think the production would be more careful. Although in my opinion, that's not as bad as the choppers rotors whacking off tree limbs while chasing the train in Range Rider.

Also, anyone notice that the close up of Hannibal firing at the troops while Face is trying to free himself, it was shot later because the helicopters stripes in the close up are red, as opposed to the green seen on the chopper in the wide shots. Looks like the red striped chopper in the close up, was probably the chopper seen in West Coast Turnaround. A bit of trivia on the green striped helicopter, you can see it's registration number N2044C, it later was turned into the famous red, white, and blue Santini Air helicopter seen in Airwolf.

Probably the worst double is seen in this episode, as Face is grabbing the chopper skid, you can see what's supposed to be the general except he's a lot younger guy with a FULL HEAD OF HAIR...LOL!

That's interesting trivia on the helicopter. I hadn't noticed and I watch a lot of the episodes pretty closely.

[amyk]

I don't think I even knew that about the double. I guess I must totally suspend my belief or something. But thanks for the info and welcome to the forum!

[scott]

Thanks!

[HoudiniDerek]

Watched this last night.

My 5 year old was very worried about the plane that Murdock crashed in the ocean. He wanted to know if it could be fixed. When I said no, he asked if a boat would see it before it ran into it.

My 7 year old asked why they threw B.A. out of the plane. I had to explain again that he is scared of flying.

My three year old didn't care in the least about the episode.

My two oldest wanted to know if flare guns could really explode like that and kill people.

Overall, not one of my favorite episodes, although I think it's one of my favorite MP police chases. And I do like Mr. Perry yelling at Lynch and Hannibal enjoying it.

I would watch BAIL OUT OVER BORNEO. Sounds like a WWII musical.

[amyk]

It kind of sounds like one of those "Road" pictures with Bob Hope and Bing Crosby, except of course it doesn't have "Road" in the title! Or maybe a Fred Astaire and Ginger Rogers movie. Here's a suggested plot:

The main male character is fighting in the war. He's a pilot and something happens to his plane, which causes him to have to bail out over Borneo, where he encounters a beautiful woman. She's probably an American who happens to be in Borneo for some reason. She probably has to care for the man, as he may be injured from his bailing out. But of course he is not too injured to sing. And eventually he heals enough that they can have some good song and dance numbers in the movie together. Then, sadly, he has to leave her to rejoin the war effort, and they wonder if they will ever see each other again. The woman moves back to the USA, but she believes the man has been killed in the war. He shows up on her doorstep, they burst into another grand finale song and dance number, and they kiss and live happily ever after.

[Eclipse139]

Rewatched this one today, it's another good S1 episode. I know Murdock is separated from the team for the most part, but he gets to be the hero and rescue everyone! I thought seeing him and Amy working together was fun, especially when she insists on getting on the plane with him and when he has to get her down from the tangled parachute. And it's good to see her causing the big explosions.

They managed to show some real danger when Face was almost executed, it was a really close call for him this time.

I love that they drug BA's milk in front of the government agents. I didn't love the terrible 'dummy Face' they used on the back of the motorbike though! Was that really the best they could do?

It's interesting to see how different Lynch is from Decker. Lynch seems to be portrayed generally as a bit of an idiot, bumbling around and failing to catch the team (and when he finally does, he immediately loses them!), whereas Decker was a much better adversary. He was tougher and he came so close to catching them several times (and did catch them, of course, although they escaped.) Lynch has apparently been chasing the team for years, but in this ep the other military guy suggests no one else is really interested in them or what they allegedly did, so it sounds like it's Lynch's personal vendetta.

[amyk]

I kind of don't like it that they present the situation for the team as not really being that big of a deal to the military. It somehow sort of ruins the importance of the team being on the run to me.

And yes, I agree about that horrid "dummy Face" they use. Almost makes you wonder if they did it just for laughs or something since it was so bad.

[Eclipse139]

This episode - and that comment in particular suggesting that recapturing the team wasn't really important to the military anymore - lessened any sense of danger that they might actually be sent back to prison one day.

They portrayed Lynch as being more of an irritant to the team instead of a real threat like Decker was. You never really felt like Lynch would ever win. Maybe it was because Lynch wasn't in every episode and he was only mentioned more often than he actually appeared on screen?

[sprout1883]

Jul 4, 2020 17:13:15 GMT -5 Eclipse139 said:

This episode - and that comment in particular suggesting that recapturing the team wasn't really important to the military anymore - lessened any sense of danger that they might actually be sent back to prison one day.

They portrayed Lynch as being more of an irritant to the team instead of a real threat like Decker was. You never really felt like Lynch would ever win. Maybe it was because Lynch wasn't in every episode and he was only mentioned more often than he actually appeared on screen?

Even when Decker is introduced in Range Rider, they say the is/or was largely forgotten about, but Lynch and Amy gave brought more attention to the team, the military feel they need to do more

It makes sense they were,largely forgotteVietnam was a mess for the USA and after a few years after the end of the war, the country wants to move on, and who cares about 3 soldiers robbing a bank in a cluster.. Of a war



Forgotten and ignored, they were still fugitives and couldn't lead a real life

[amyk]

But then in the court martial trilogy they make it seem like they are so important and notorious. Is that only because of the new charge of them murdering Morrison? But if Morrison was really a traitor, I would think even the military would not be all that upset that the team murdered him.

[HoudiniDerek]

Jul 5, 2020 13:13:52 GMT -5 amyk said:

But then in the court martial trilogy they make it seem like they are so important and notorious. Is that only because of the new charge of them murdering Morrison? But if Morrison was really a traitor, I would think even the military would not be all that upset that the team murdered him.

Maybe it's like other things that happen. A new government, new representatives that were against the Vietnam War, are suddenly in power and want to bring these things to a close. Consider all the investigations that happen in our government now for things in the past. I think there was a heavy sentiment that the government messed up and people should be held accountable. That could be true for the team as well.

Do I think this was the underlying idea behind the court martial episode? No. I think that Stockwell saw an opportunity and took it. He seems to have the power to move men to his will in the government and this was just a way to get that information out there and the team on his side. I am of the belief that Stockwell knows they are innocent, but needs the leverage.

[amyk]

I watched this one tonight. We may have mentioned this before, but I'm not sure.....a "Major Briggs" is referred to in this episode. (Apparently the two guys from the State Department are Mr. Perry and Major Briggs.) I doubt that the writers of the series intended for this to be the same Briggs, later a Colonel, that we see in FIRE, but funny that they use the same name.

I really hate the cheesy voiceovers they use in this episode when the team is going to the airstrip, followed by Murdock and Amy.