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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2016 10:51:02 GMT -5
I really need to watch this/these episodes again when I have time. So many nuances to look for!
I agree with Sidney about Face. Even pretending to be someone like Bongo just isn't in his nature. And while Murdock is absolutely nothing like Bongo, I can see him playing the role because of that dark side you mention.
Hmmm-does Face have a dark side? Good question, Amyk. I think he does, if you threaten someone he cares about.
Oh, and you know who would give ME shivers playing Bongo? Hannibal.
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Post by HoudiniDerek on Mar 30, 2020 13:44:31 GMT -5
I have always liked this episode. It stays in character with the rest of the first season, the episodes having some rough edges and such. None of it feels off the rails for me. The kids wanted to know how Murdock could roll what he wanted all the time and where to find invisible dice. "It's always darkest just before it goes totally black." I love that line and his laugh. I use that in down times. The boys did like the appearance of Woody Woodpecker. They too wondered why Murdock was hitchhiking and what happened to his helicopter.
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Post by amyk on Mar 30, 2020 20:54:29 GMT -5
Did you let them watch the scene with the hooker?!
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Post by HoudiniDerek on Mar 31, 2020 10:33:13 GMT -5
Did you let them watch the scene with the hooker?! Yes. They didn't really pay attention to any of it. If it's not an action sequence or something funny, they are usually talking. I didn't see any reason not to. We do a lot of consent talk in the house anyway, especially the way schools have cracked down on basic things like handholding.
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Post by amyk on Mar 31, 2020 21:02:03 GMT -5
I feel like the scene with the hooker is actually pretty "dark," especially for an episode of TAT. Murdock is especially creepy in that scene. But maybe it would go over young kids' heads.
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Post by hasford1978 on May 17, 2020 5:57:24 GMT -5
I watched this just two days ago, always was a favourite well acted and well directed One or two editing issues towards the end when bad guys are chasing the A Team in the limo but stuff like that always adds to the fun 😁
All in all 10/10 brilliant paced episode
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Post by Eclipse139 on Jun 30, 2020 14:58:09 GMT -5
I rewatched this one today, I have no memories of it at all and I don't think it's one of my favourites. I enjoyed Murdock's performance as Bongo, it was edgy and perfect for the situation. It made a change from the usual loud, crazy Murdock scenes.
The blackface scene was of it's time and although it feels very wrong now it wasn't meant to be offensive back then - I do think BAs comment about it showed, perhaps, attitudes were starting to change though.
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Post by amyk on Aug 2, 2020 22:00:26 GMT -5
I just finished watching this one again, and I really feel like I enjoyed it a lot more than I usually do. I do wish that Hannibal/GP had not done the blackface, and I kind of feel guilty enjoying this episode as much as I did, since it has the blackface scene in it. But I realized that it is an episode with quite a complex plan to be carried out, lots of twists and turns, and also a lot of humor in it as well.
Amy looked pretty ticked off at Hannibal's comment about the professor's body.
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Post by hasford1978 on Aug 15, 2020 5:31:59 GMT -5
I think it's funny Hannibal blacking himself up, reminds me of the black and white minstrels 😁😁 back then society laughed at itself nowadays it seems you can't have a sense of humour regarding anything because someone somewhere will take offense
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Post by Katia on Feb 4, 2023 21:30:08 GMT -5
Although I think Murdock hitchhiking on the runway is funny, I am not so sure I like it that the team just seemed to leave him there by himself. I don't, either. This is another one of those places where I feel like Murdock is kind of marginalized, and it makes me sad. I do think Murdock is adorable tossing the invisible dice in the van and how I love that Face plays along - even after showing the dice to BA, he tosses them back to Murdock Yeah, I love it when Face just plays along with stuff Murdock does. I agree, Amyk, that I don't like how the team while at first seems concerned about Murdock is then like " well he'll find his way home somehow" Also I thought it interesting that the team went to Amy to see if Murdock contacted her. Why would Murdock contact Amy before anyone else on the team? Unless the writers were trying to imply that Amy and Murdock had a thing going? Maybe a storyline that never fully developed...... I never got the impression there was anything between Amy and any of the guys (good because she was so much younger). I liked that, that they never made her a love interest (even though she had to impersonate one a couple times); she just got to be there on her own merit. But it does make sense to me that they might ask had she heard from him-- covering all their bases. If my friend was missing, I'd probably ask everyone they might be likely to contact as well, even if I thought it less likely they'd contact that person than me.
I don't really think Murdock would follow through on any of his threats....but then again, if he does really have a dark side.... I think Murdock has a dark side, but I've always felt it's probably inwardly-directed. I could absolutely see him having issues with depression, self-confidence, overthinking things, self-blame, etc. (I was about to say that he is, after all, the only one of the four who came out of the war with mental issues, but of course we don't necessarily know that's true-- he's just the only one we see it from, ten years later; we don't necessarily know what's going on with the other guys, especially right after the war). If it is directed toward other people, I would imagine it would be people who "deserve" it-- people who hurt innocent people or his friends, for example. Look at the way he gets when someone he cares about is hurt or threatened-- that's when scary hyper-serious Murdock comes out. Murdock discussed the trying to do electo-shock therapy on him, he showed his 'brilliance' (although his math language wasn't really anything), he flew to save the day, and it was Hannibal that created Bongo, not Murdock. So it showed how he could improvise and go along with Hannibal's plans on the fly. Murdock is hella smart. I've wondered before if he does research before a job on the issues they're about to go up against, and this was the first episode that made me wonder that (or, the other implication is that he just knows about a wide range of stuff right off the top of his head). He is shown to know about a lot of different things. I've thought this isn't necessarily so surprising; when all you do 24/7 is rattle around a mental hospital, you have a lot of time to read and learn things.
The girls were probably never alone. I think they were watched by the team in the bad part of town too. Probably not, but they didn't know that. From what they knew, they were putting themselves into a lot of danger. They absolutely would've been justified in not doing that. But then they never would've been able to hire the team. That's why I think this was so shady of the guys to do. No, I would not like to see Face as Bongo....Face never really shows a "dark side" does he? I would be willing to bet that Face may be very good at hiding it... but it might be interesting to be a fly on the wall when Face is alone at night. Oh, and you know who would give ME shivers playing Bongo? Hannibal. Oooooh, yes. If done the right way... and I think GP could pull that off. I think it's funny Hannibal blacking himself up, reminds me of the black and white minstrels 😁😁 back then society laughed at itself nowadays it seems you can't have a sense of humour regarding anything because someone somewhere will take offense Just because you think something is funny doesn't mean that the person who's the butt of the joke will agree.
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