Bounty - Episode 58

[amyk]

I just watched this on again....I'm giving it a 9 on the Sidney scale. The main reason I don't give it a 10 is because of the re-used footage of the van jump over Topeko Pass. But also I admit that the romance between Murdock and Kelly does seem rather forced. Still, for me, their little romance is cute and works for the most part. I've decided to list my five favorite scenes from the episode:

1) The scene in the van when Face talks about BA helping him with the scam and how he just has to do what he's told (or something like that) and how it is just like acting - the look between Face and Hannibal there, in my opinion, is priceless and this for me is one of the best scenes not just of the episode but of the entire series. I think I laugh every time.

2) Murdock in the truck with the bounty hunters - love how he's wanting the free-flow ventilation and then how upset he gets that they are not wearing their seatbelts.

3) Murdock still playing the arcade game even as the bounty hunters are pointing their guns at him.

4) Face and Hannibal with Billy Bob and how Face is acting all excited to be meeting Billy Bob (or whatever that guy's name is).

5) "Angry Murdock" when he tells the bounty hunter what he will do if they hurt one hair on Kelly's head.

[bountycowboy22056]

Good evening.What is called the song that begins when Hannibal, Face and B.A. enter the KWRE radio station?

[Eclipse139]

Well I'm up to this episode on my rewatch. I know it kind of divides opinion, but I still love it.

I still think the on-screen chemistry between Murdock and Kelly shines through and it's lovely to see one of the characters have a proper, cute romance storyline, instead of just a bit of flirting and one kiss.

After all the various comments on here, I now wonder if the tag scene was necessary - it does seem a little out of place. We never see any of the other clients they've met visiting any of the team, or contacting them again after their story is over. Not to say they're not still in touch with some of the people they've met, but we just don't see it mentioned on screen. However, I do love that she asks him why he's living at the hospital, though. She can see that he doesn't need to be there, that he's not really crazy - not in the insane sense of the word, anyway.

I agree with all your favourite scenes, Amy - the snide remark about actors is so funny! I'd also add the scene where Hannibal runs into the bar/diner to answer the phone the first time. He seems really flustered - we never really see Hannibal acting that way and it just shows how much he cares about Murdock and how worried he is that the bounty hunters might hurt him if the team don't follow their instructions. It's really interesting to see that side of Hannibal.

[amyk]

We do see Dr. Sullivan contacted again, so there is some precedent for a team member staying in contact with someone they helped in the past.

While it isn't my absolute favorite, I do like this episode, too. I can respect others who disagree about it. Yes, the romance may be somewhat forced, but it's not like they have any longer story arcs that develop a deeper romance for any of the team members in any episode, unless you count things that happened in the distant past, like Leslie and Face's romance from their college days. I guess Face's 2-week romance with Rena was the longest romance for any team member in their "present day," and for Face, that really was a long romance!

I do agree about that scene with Hannibal rushing to get to the phone in time. He is no longer completely in control of the situation, and I think he knows he has to sort of let himself be controlled by the bounty hunters, at least for the moment, until he has an opportunity to get the upper hand. For the moment, he has to follow their plan instead of his own.

[Eclipse139]

I can see why not everyone enjoys this episode and it's great that people have different opinions - it makes the discussions more interesting! I think most of us have our favourites and the ones we don't like and those opinions are never going to all agree. This is why I love forums like this one!

You're right, Amy, what's different for Hannibal in this ep is he doesn't really have a plan for rescuing Murdock. Even when they finally get to where Murdock was being held captive he's already escaped so any ideas Hannibal may have had to resue him were of no use anyway. As you say he's not in control, until later when it's Kelly who needs rescuing and they rig the van with the remote control guns.

[sidney]

What are you talking about? Not everyone enjoys this episode? Are they mad?
I am BOUNTY'S NUMBER 1 FAN. It even says so under my name.

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[Eclipse139]

Sept 26, 2020 5:05:58 GMT -5 sidney said:

What are you talking about? Not everyone enjoys this episode? Are they mad?
I am BOUNTY'S NUMBER 1 FAN. It even says so under my name.

<------- Look!

  Of course I didn't mean you!

[amyk]

Right, we all know that Sidney will defend this episode with every ounce of breath in her body and that not only is she BOUNTY's #1 fan, but Kelly is who Sidney aspires to be!

[sidney]

You two know me so well.

[Katia]

"The only phone number Murdock knows is the mobile phone in the van."  Really?  They don't even give him their phone numbers?  Another thing that makes me wonder if poor Murdock is marginalized from the rest of them.  (I mean, then again... would you give Murdock your phone number to have him calling you with every harebrained idea he has?  LOL.)

B.A. being worried about Murdock.  I love those two so much.

I also want to borrow the van now that the front of it shoots guns. 

Jul 22, 2018 19:55:18 GMT -5 amyk said:

3) Murdock still playing the arcade game even as the bounty hunters are pointing their guns at him.

Yeah, I loved this part.

Sept 24, 2020 15:43:59 GMT -5 Eclipse139 said:

After all the various comments on here, I now wonder if the tag scene was necessary - it does seem a little out of place. We never see any of the other clients they've met visiting any of the team, or contacting them again after their story is over. Not to say they're not still in touch with some of the people they've met, but we just don't see it mentioned on screen. However, I do love that she asks him why he's living at the hospital, though. She can see that he doesn't need to be there, that he's not really crazy - not in the insane sense of the word, anyway.

This was why I sort of wondered if we were being set up to see more of her and it just didn't happen.

Then again, everything about this particular "romance" was different than we see for Murdock with other women.  I wonder how much of this episode was pushed by DS/WF, as far as plot and the things that go on.  Because as I said in the other thread, a lot of it feels like it's personal to them.  Like, the pizza bit?  I feel like I now know *exactly* what pizza night at their house is like.  I find myself wondering if the two of them were awkward when they met.  If she didn't think she was pretty and he did.  Etc.

But why did he not call her?  (I assume a bit shy about it-- when you're a dude living at a mental hospital, you probably don't have much confidence about your appeal to women.  Is she the only one of all the women he's hooked up with who knows what his circumstances are?  I wonder what the conversation was like where he tells her...)  Or, why does she not call him?  How much time passes between when they meet and when she just shows up there?

Sept 24, 2020 15:43:59 GMT -5 Eclipse139 said:

 I'd also add the scene where Hannibal runs into the bar/diner to answer the phone the first time. He seems really flustered - we never really see Hannibal acting that way and it just shows how much he cares about Murdock and how worried he is that the bounty hunters might hurt him if the team don't follow their instructions. It's really interesting to see that side of Hannibal.

Sept 24, 2020 17:18:47 GMT -5 amyk said:

I do agree about that scene with Hannibal rushing to get to the phone in time. He is no longer completely in control of the situation, and I think he knows he has to sort of let himself be controlled by the bounty hunters, at least for the moment, until he has an opportunity to get the upper hand. For the moment, he has to follow their plan instead of his own.

Oh, good point...

[amyk]

"The only phone number Murdock knows is the mobile phone in the van." Really? They don't even give him their phone numbers? Another thing that makes me wonder if poor Murdock is marginalized from the rest of them. (I mean, then again... would you give Murdock your phone number to have him calling you with every harebrained idea he has? LOL.)

How would they have any phone numbers? Do they have phones wherever they live? I guess Face would have a phone in whatever scammed penthouse-of-the-week he is living in perhaps. But I don't think that BA or Hannibal have phone numbers.

How much time passes between when they meet and when she just shows up there?

This is a good question. I kind of get the feeling that it is at least a couple of weeks. She also has had her hair done differently. Did she do that to try to impress Murdock?

[amyk]

the other thing I thought was weird was the part where he leaves and he goes back to the door and can't bring himself to knock, but he whispers, "I like you!" and then runs away. I mean, they've already kissed, so the place to be *that* shy is long past... Then again, I also found it weird when he has to leave where she's like, "I'm going to cry!" Why? You just met the guy, and even if the two of you hit it off, he's still a near-stranger to you, and not only are you already about to cry over him leaving, but you admit that to him?)

I do agree that, when they first parted, they acted like they had been together for a long time, while in reality I think it may have just been a few hours. So in that respect, yeah, I admit that they "fell in love" practically instantly, and that does seem somewhat unrealistic.

[Katia]

Mar 17, 2023 17:24:09 GMT -5 amyk said:

How would they have any phone numbers? Do they have phones wherever they live? I guess Face would have a phone in whatever scammed penthouse-of-the-week he is living in perhaps. But I don't think that BA or Hannibal have phone numbers.

I don't know why a person *wouldn't* have a home phone... and, if they're saying this, then to me it's implying that they have other numbers, it's just that that's the only one they let *him* have.  Poor Murdock.

Mar 17, 2023 17:24:09 GMT -5 amyk said:

How much time passes between when they meet and when she just shows up there?

This is a good question. I kind of get the feeling that it is at least a couple of weeks. She also has had her hair done differently. Did she do that to try to impress Murdock?

I would say at least a couple weeks or maybe even a month.  And it sounds like they have not interacted at all since then.  (But really-- why wouldn't he call her?  "no quarters for the pay phone" is no excuse-- we know he has a phone in his room.)  Interesting that she shows up rather than calling him, though.  (I admit I'd call, just to gauge his reaction.  I'd hate to show up and *then* realize he didn't want to hear from me again...)

I didn't notice about the hair, though...

Mar 17, 2023 17:34:37 GMT -5 amyk said:

I do agree that, when they first parted, they acted like they had been together for a long time, while in reality I think it may have just been a few hours. So in that respect, yeah, I admit that they "fell in love" practically instantly, and that does seem somewhat unrealistic.

Or at least that's the way she acts (I can't remember if he does).

And yeah, I realized, that's one of the things about her... she does seem to come across as very naive, or unexperienced in relationships, or something, in some parts.

[amyk]

Mar 17, 2023 20:17:32 GMT -5 Katia said:

Mar 17, 2023 17:24:09 GMT -5 amyk said:

How would they have any phone numbers? Do they have phones wherever they live? I guess Face would have a phone in whatever scammed penthouse-of-the-week he is living in perhaps. But I don't think that BA or Hannibal have phone numbers.

I don't know why a person *wouldn't* have a home phone... and, if they're saying this, then to me it's implying that they have other numbers, it's just that that's the only one they let *him* have.  Poor Murdock.

I'm not sure that they stay living in one place long enough to have phone service installed. I think they also would not really need phone service. It also could be tapped by the government to find them if they had it, right?

But I can see why you may think that they have phone numbers and yet only give Murdock the one in the van. I think they would give their home phone numbers to Murdock if they had them, though. But the comment maybe does not make much sense then. However, Hannibal may have been in a bit of a panic and not really meant it the way it seemed. Maybe he just meant that they only way Murdock would be able to contact them would be through the van phone?

[hasford1978]

One of my all time favourite 'team' shots is in this one, when all the guys are stood beside the van arms raised just before the guys kick arse 😁