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Post by Aquamaniac on Mar 12, 2010 16:52:21 GMT -5
Calling it something else would take away their one purpose of making this film; Cashing in on a beloved TV-show by making a crappy flick while laughing all the way to the bank.
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Post by mossy62 on Mar 12, 2010 18:26:14 GMT -5
Calling it something else would take away their one purpose of making this film; Cashing in on a beloved TV-show by making a crappy flick while laughing all the way to the bank. I know, that's why I hate it so much. They could just make a good film and be happy, instead they are hoping to make that much more money by drawing the old fans into it I wouldn't mind watching an action film with some funny moments, but I do mind hearing the main character getting called Hannibal and Face and Murdock and BA. Because it just doesn't feel right to me. Who ever wants to watch it can go, but I won't.
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Post by amyk on Mar 13, 2010 13:41:19 GMT -5
I suspect that many fans of TAT will probably like the movie. I just can't get my heart into it. I still think it is weird to take the same basic characters and move them into another era. I would love, for example, a MR. ED movie, but I would not want it to be anyone else playing Wilbur or pretending that the original Mr. Ed is still living in the year 2010! I could deal with it being Mr. Ed's offspring perhaps also named Ed and maybe talking to Wilbur's offspring. I think "Legacy of Mr. Ed" could be a good title for that movie.
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Post by mizhowlinmad on Mar 13, 2010 15:22:02 GMT -5
Just like I wouldn't have minded so much a TAT: The Next Generation thing. (They could have thrown in Reg Barclay just for kicks.) ;D
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Post by amyk on Mar 13, 2010 15:51:34 GMT -5
Yes, I think they really should have come up with all new characters, new quirks, etc. That I maybe would have enjoyed seeing, especially if SJC was the major writer for those new characters.
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Post by mizhowlinmad on Mar 14, 2010 17:41:21 GMT -5
This is such a good debate...in the past few weeks I've encountered a lot of opinions. I agree that to use the original character names and general personalities seems a little weird. The more I think about it, the more I agree that I'd like to have seen a completely new group, but then, would they even want to call it TAT? There are a zillion action/buddy movies out there about mercenary groups with quirky personalities. B.A. said it best: there's only one A-Team.
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Post by amyk on Mar 15, 2010 11:26:08 GMT -5
I think it would have been fun to have a new team with a new leader who somehow knew about all of Hannibal's crazy plans and would bring them up....kind of like how Hannibal likes to talk about all the classic military strategy, half-pincer movements, and the like.
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Post by therm on Mar 18, 2010 16:48:19 GMT -5
I don't see why people get so upset about remakes. If it sucks what difference does it make, you're still going to love the TV show so you've lost nothing.
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Post by amyk on Mar 19, 2010 5:19:36 GMT -5
I think we feel defensive, therm, about "our guys!" And I do feel like I have lost something because I feel like someone is stealing the identities of "our guys." It may be irrational, but somehow it is still there. I don't know how to describe it other than that. On the other hand, although some of us may whine and complain about it on this forum, I doubt that any of us are losing any sleep over it or anything that drastic. It's not like it is filling my mind 24/7 (even if the REAL A-Team does! No, just kidding even about that!).
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Post by Zihna on Mar 19, 2010 7:11:26 GMT -5
I think we feel defensive, therm, about "our guys!" And I do feel like I have lost something because I feel like someone is stealing the identities of "our guys." It may be irrational, but somehow it is still there. I don't know how to describe it other than that. On the other hand, although some of us may whine and complain about it on this forum, I doubt that any of us are losing any sleep over it or anything that drastic. It's not like it is filling my mind 24/7 (even if the REAL A-Team does! No, just kidding even about that!). I definitely agree!! I couldn't have said it any better.
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Post by Aquamaniac on Mar 19, 2010 11:07:35 GMT -5
I don't see why people get so upset about remakes. If it sucks what difference does it make, you're still going to love the TV show so you've lost nothing. Well, how about the fact that people who don't know any better will think that the new movie represents the real A-Team? God, I've met so many annoying douchebags who have seen the new Halloween movie and think of that one as the standard Halloween film and refer to the classic one as "boring crap", same goes for a lot of remakes. It does make a difference, in popular culture and in other areas, personal ones as well. Yes, we still have the original, but it's been tainted by this highly unnecessary movie, and the two will be combined forever.
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Post by amyk on Mar 20, 2010 14:34:49 GMT -5
I would feel the same way if they tried to remake Casablanca or one of my favorite classic movies.....however, I will admit that I have not seen the original (silent) BEN-HUR and I really love the "remake" of it......I think there may be a difference though when it is a book that is made into a movie, because the characters were not formed around an actor. Even if the original characters in a TV show were not written with a specific actor in mind (although of course B.A. was written for Mr. T), still as the show developed, those characters became not just words on a page but the characters themselves incorporated some of the actors' personalities.
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Post by mizhowlinmad on Mar 20, 2010 15:44:30 GMT -5
I've run into the same problem with the younger generation, Aquamaniac (and believe me, I'm starting to feel old next to them.) They just don't have a sense of the past in the way we do. I'm sure 20 years from now, they'll be trying to explain who Jack Bauer is to their kids and students. One of the big problems with Hollywood is, they think they have to make the original "more exciting," which generally translates to more stupid dialogue, pointless sex scenes, profanity, etc. That's just our society being dumbed down. It is kind of sad to think that today's younger set thinks of witty dialogue and funny character interaction as boring, but...
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Post by amyk on Mar 20, 2010 16:10:00 GMT -5
Every once in a while, though, something comes along that is just quiet, character-driven, etc. I'm thinking of how DRIVING MISS DAISY was such a surprise, I believe, to be the huge hit it was. No real action, just mainly an old lady and her chauffer driving around and chatting. But a terrific movie.
Of course, TAT has to have SOME action scenes.....but to me those aren't the main point of the show. I think they will perhaps be the main point of the movie. But maybe I'm wrong....maybe it just looks that way from the preview. And if you only watched the preview clips of the TV show, you may think the same thing. Maybe that's why some people didn't give the show a chance.
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Post by therm on Mar 21, 2010 5:14:09 GMT -5
I can understand about the newer fans thinking that the films awesome, but really, most kids are douche's so it's hard to take them seriously. And don't get me wrong, I love the team. I think the original show will have the characters better than the film will have just because it was five seasons and it can develope them so much better than a film will be able to, I just don't want to write the film off too much before having seen it. In the case of remakes, some are better than the original. It happens occasionally. I liked the Texas Chainsaw Massacre remake more than the original (and I saw the original first). Then Dawn of the Dead, the remake was awful to me, but it was really not the same story it just had the same title and a mall. I think The A Team's gonna be the same. It'll have the same name and yeah the same character names but what's happening within the story isn't the same as the TV show. that's far enough removed for me to not judge them as being the same. I also have more faith in the film after watching District 9 and finding out that Sharlto Copley is playing Murdock and he was awesome in D9.
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