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Post by Nance on Sept 2, 2016 5:52:23 GMT -5
Found this old photograph of a Huey pilot in Vietnam. This is probably how Murdock would have looked back then. Olive flight suit and chicken plate. I wonder what all of the guys looked like in country. With military haircuts etc. Face would not have had long locks of gold spun hair... The Mohawks were in use back then, so BA probably looks the same. Only 10 years younger... Murdock would also have sported a military haircut instead of his wild hair.  Can you imagine... aaaaaw |
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Post by Lilla Weneda on Sept 2, 2016 6:48:08 GMT -5
Feel bad for this nice guy. I hope that he was ok and back home... Very good photo! I think that on his face we can see whole tragedy of war. I'm sure that can give us some light on Murdocks feelings. Yes, I can imagine Dwight face - ofc younger and with more hairs on his head.  Polish RAF squadron, "Division 303" during IIWW, Leconfield, 1940. |
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Post by Nance on Sept 2, 2016 6:55:30 GMT -5
The pilot in the picture lived to see 2002 when he died of lung cancer. He is in his early 20's in the pic.
I spotted this pic a while back, but it keeps me thinking about Murdock. The look on his face does it.
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Post by Lilla Weneda on Sept 2, 2016 7:03:03 GMT -5
Thank you for information, Nance. Now I feel better (at least he has a many years after war).
Personally I feel sad when I look on war photos. Maybe because I read many things about war and every time when I look on these faces I think, if they were ok and survive this horror.
When I was little girl, I remember the signs of war in my city. Whole street is full of buildings and sudently, a empty hole, because no one rebuild here nothing jet. Old, sad ruins near new buildings. And many, many tables with information, that "here died citizens", "here died Jews". We still have holes from bullets in our monuments.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2016 7:07:16 GMT -5
Thank you for the pictures Ladies - I have nothing but the utmost respect of our men and women that have served and are currently serving. I can't even begin to imagine what they have sacrificed.
I also feel heart broken when I see pictures like this - especially as a mother - these men were so very young not that much older then my son in some cases - and so many left their families and never came home. Or came home very broken. It's a good reminder to keep these people in our prayers.
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Post by Nance on Sept 2, 2016 7:11:12 GMT -5
Me too Lilla Weneda. Some time ago, I found a photograph of a WW1 soldier with shell shock. It's a normal picture, but the look on the soldiers face.... It keeps me thinking about if he survived the war and ever got over the PTSD. Did he eventually live a full life of not. He is long dead already because the last veteran of the first world war died in 2012, but still...
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Post by Lilla Weneda on Sept 2, 2016 7:52:10 GMT -5
I think I understand you, Nance. We know, that people can't live forever and the veterans slowly passing away.
When I see these pictures I always hope, that they died as old men, surrounded by their grandchildren.
Och, now I listening old war songs and reading war poems...
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Post by Nance on Sept 2, 2016 8:11:53 GMT -5
Some of the Vietnam pictures are especially heartbreaking. Because photography became more widely available there are so many more photographs in combat than in older wars. These, I found really compelling too. I have no backstories to them though.  Shell shock during WW1 the text said, but I think this is actually WW2. They look like American soldiers and the helmets are more modern.  CPR in combat zone, Vietnam. I feel really grateful for the soldiers that fight in these wars. They fight for our freedom and it costs them dearly. Sure there are those who did monstrous things to the enemy too. But war IS monstrous in it's entirety. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2016 8:43:55 GMT -5
I only saw the movie Saving Private Ryan once - excellent movie - very intense - does a great job showing the horror of what these guys went through. Which is why I only could watch it once - I literally sobbed through the entire movie - it broke me
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Post by Lilla Weneda on Sept 2, 2016 8:44:53 GMT -5
Oh! Especially the 2nd one is devastating! I just don't have skills in English, to write about my feelings! These man, who tried to rescue his "brother in arms"... Very sad, tragic photo. This is the picture of people from Warsaw's ghetto. I think that most awful things in wars is the fate of civillians.  and here is a photo of Krzysztof Baczynski, the poet.  He died in battle on 4 August 1944, in age of 23. Ladyjay, I can't watch war movies, serioulsy. The Schindler List was filmed in Krakow and I know the girl, who played "The Girl in Red Coat" but I never saw it. But I saw The Pianist... I never forget the scene, when Germans throw away from window an old, cripple man... Geez! |
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Post by Nance on Sept 2, 2016 9:06:51 GMT -5
What happened at the Warschau getto... That was pure and unadulterated evil!
My grandfather was in Köln when the allied forces obliterated the city. He survived (thankfully or else I wouldn't be writing this) and escaped the 'arbeitseinsätz' (forced labour) twice! He and a friend walked through the front line to the American side.
I have watched most of band of brothers and a few pieces of pacific, but that last one is especially vile. Asian peoples are very adept at warfare. Like all humans... But they have a very different honour system. This is why most western soldiers come back so broken from combat in Asia. Did you know that instead of surrendering as POW's the Japanese killed themselves honourably. The Americans that 'won' the battle had to walk through masses of dead soldiers that weren't killed in combat, but by their own hand. How do you fight something that wants to die.
The second picture really broke my heart. I wonder if the guy survived or not.
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Post by Nance on Sept 4, 2016 9:20:49 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2016 23:24:43 GMT -5
I only saw the movie Saving Private Ryan once - excellent movie - very intense - does a great job showing the horror of what these guys went through. Which is why I only could watch it once - I literally sobbed through the entire movie - it broke me I've seen all of Saving Private Ryan once, and caught part of it on TV a second time, thankfully in between the toughest parts. I think Schindler's List broke me even more though. I've only seen it once too, and it haunts me to this day. Yet, in the end, to see one person make a difference like that was truly inspiring. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2016 23:29:43 GMT -5
Nance, I've seen all of Band of Brothers but not the Pacific one. I can only imagine what it must have been like seeing what they saw. Sad, but interesting backstory you found on the CPR photo. It's amazing all the history that's out there in just a few clicks.
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Post by Lilla Weneda on Sept 10, 2016 6:52:56 GMT -5
Maybe this will interest you, guys. It's a graphic simmulation of ruins of Warsaw after Uprising in 1944. www.youtube.com/watch?v=twDouTqS4c8On 1:32 you can see the ruins of Royal Castle and this empty space are the ashes of Jewish Area (ghetto) - started on 3:30. |
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