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Post by Paper Crane Song on Aug 27, 2017 8:19:03 GMT -5
By the way everyone, I might be way off with the whole cookie thing, so just don't get your hopes up when you come to watch that scene. It's just me conjecturing. (Although it would be cool to hear your guys' verdict!).
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Post by kellie on Aug 28, 2017 7:33:53 GMT -5
If Dwight was trying to steal a cookie, I could believe that he did that by himself, like I think maybe they do with the whole stealing the hats thing. I also like those lines of BA about Murdock. I think BA tends to be nice about Murdock when Murdock isn't around. I think he has given Murdock a hard time for so long that he is probably embarrassed for his true feelings about Murdock to show when Murdock is around. Amyk- agree with you about BA, it's like he has to keep up the act in giving Murdock a hard time cause he's done it for so long, and maybe he doesn't know how to act any other way. Another thing I think is interesting about BA is in BLACK DAY AT BAD ROCK when Hannibal tells Face that BA loves him. I'm pretty sure BA loves Murdock too - he loves all of them. But interesting that Face doesn't realise it. (I think Murdock is pretty secure in the knowledge that BA loves him though!). So yeah, BA being embarrassed to show his true feelings about the team does fit. Yeah I agree, he shows he really does like him as a friend in Curtain Call & he looks after Murdock, als when he wants his van back & mentions Murdock wants his plant aswell. I wouldn't put it past Dwight to pinch his cookie off his own back, on the spur of the moment, sometimes you see one of them laughing & you just know the other one is somewhere trying to make him laugh. There should be a thread for "Evidence that BA really does like Murdock", with the things you suggested Kellie. I got another one - BA lends Murdock his beloved van in HOT STYLES. Oh yeah, I'd forgot about him lending him his van. BA loves them all, he just has a different way of showing it than the others & I think Murdock does know BA loves him too, he just knows what BA is like. Look how angry he was when Murdock got broke out of the VA by the baddies. Even Hannibal's face was a bit taken aback at how concerned he was. That would be a good thread, evidence BA does like Murdock. We might even pick up on stuff we haven't really thought of or noticed before!
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Post by Eclipse139 on Jul 17, 2020 11:41:41 GMT -5
Rewatched this one today and it's always been one of my favourites - I just love the whole 'eclipse' thing (see my username! ) and I always think of this whenever I see mention of an eclipse. I love how Murdock trying to be not crazy still annoys BA! I love Hannibal taxiing the supposedly crashed aeroplane through the jungle (and how much BA hates it!) and I really love the scenes with Face and Judy's aunt - Dirk played those scenes so well, it was beautifully touching. Murdock as Dick Nash is so good, although I hate that Hannibal makes Face hit him! (I understand why, I just don't like it.) I'm surprised Hannibal agrees to take Judy along with them, although her hypnosis skills are very useful he doesn't normally like the idea of putting women in danger, not even Amy - remember he wouldn't let her go into the orphanage with Face dressed as a nun in ONLY CHURCH IN TOWN. With Judy he doesn't seem that bothered that she could get hurt.
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Post by amyk on Jul 18, 2020 21:56:27 GMT -5
Maybe he thinks she could just hypnotize the bad guys on the spot if needed!
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Post by Eclipse139 on Jul 19, 2020 3:34:22 GMT -5
Maybe he thinks she could just hypnotize the bad guys on the spot if needed! They could take her with them on every mission - it would certainly save a lot of ammunition!
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Post by HoudiniDerek on Sept 15, 2020 12:43:43 GMT -5
This was better than I remember. I have never cared for it, but I was watching it with a renewed appreciation last night. We get to see Face get to beat a guy up without any help. We get to see B.A. in a plane and AWAKE when Hannibal is driving through the jungle. We get to see Murdock normal, nearly cry about it, and then revert. (The part where he is first Dick Nash and starts to jump in excitement and has to temper it before the guy sees is spot-on Murdock to me). We get to see Hannibal question Face's sudden charity turnaround. It was well done from all angles on the part of the team's characterizations. That said, I think the story itself is a little lazy with drug runners and tricking the bad guy across the border. I think it was okay, but it wasn't something fantastic plotwise. I liked Judy better, although she seemed so naive in some ways. I love how Face and Murdock jump the boxes, without knowing she is there, yet somehow both don't land on her. The hypnosis thing was fun. It would have been neat to have it on for a few episodes before something happened to cause it to lose influence or something. But as a one episode gimmick, not bad. Especially because Face was so excited to use the 2x4 again. Hannibal having to keep B.A. from breaking Murdock's jaw was great too. A lot of people like the Face/Murdock part of that scene, but I always get a kick out of the Hannibal/B.A. part. My wife noticed two things, both regarding Judy: 1. Why did she go with them to the airport? She was waiting at the house with her family when they showed up, but they all just assumed she was going along? Was it just to drive the van back? 2. She had no need to be in that scene where Hannibal was placing the 1 in front of the 5. The ONLY reason my wife thinks she was there was the way her butt filled out those jeans. We both noticed the reference to Amy. She was completely left out of STEEL and THE MALTESE COW, but she was referenced here. And she will be referenced in the next episode where we get Tawnia. My kids did not want to watch this one at all. Each watched a few minutes, but wandered off. It just couldn't hold their interest at all. Although my first born is excited that Decker is in the next one.
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Post by Eclipse139 on Sept 15, 2020 15:37:34 GMT -5
I would have loved to have seen the hypnosis thing carry on for a few episodes - I think it would have made the moment BA realises what's been going on even more fun! I think your wife could be right about Judy helping Hannibal stick a number onto a sign. She wasn't needed for that particular task at all, but I suppose they had to give her other things to do in the ep once she'd finished hypnotising BA. I wonder how much filming had been done on episodes when Amy was unceremoniously dropped from thr show? They probably just decided to carry on without her, but then after a few eps came up with the story of her being given the foreign correspondent job. At least she wasn't completely forgotten about, it would have been awful if she just disappeared never to be mentioned again.
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Post by amyk on Sept 15, 2020 23:46:29 GMT -5
Too bad they didn't reference Amy ever again after Tawnia's first episode. In this episode, when they reference Amy, it isn't as though she has actually taken the Jakarta job, is it? It is almost like they are just talking about her as though she's still back in LA I think.
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Post by HoudiniDerek on Sept 16, 2020 8:48:49 GMT -5
Too bad they didn't reference Amy ever again after Tawnia's first episode. In this episode, when they reference Amy, it isn't as though she has actually taken the Jakarta job, is it? It is almost like they are just talking about her as though she's still back in LA I think. That's how I took it. That Amy is still working, but just isn't on this job with them.
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Post by amyk on Jun 13, 2022 21:51:39 GMT -5
I watched this one again tonight. Even though some of it does not seem to make sense to me, I still love it. I feel like 3 bad guys all kind of look alike. I just think the interactions between the team members is so good in this one that I don't really care if the plot completely makes sense. I always still get the feeling that Face may be lying about being an orphan, the way he says it to Judy's aunt...but from other episodes, we have to assume he was truly an orphan, and we know he did grow up in the orphanage But the way that Judy's aunt talks to Face also always sort of makes me think she may be scamming him, trying to win him over in order to get him to influence the team to do the job for free or at least at reduced price.
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