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Post by amyk on Jun 22, 2010 13:54:53 GMT -5
They still could have been the A-Team. I have often mentioned that I wish they had been THE A-TEAM: THE NEXT GENERATION. They could still have done goofy stunts and had wacky characteristics, but I think it would have been neat to have them as all new characters.....like how Data in STAR TREK: THE NEXT GENERATION was sort of the new Spock but of course a completely different character.
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Post by mossy62 on Jun 22, 2010 14:40:20 GMT -5
Yes, I know we have different opinions about this and maybe I'm a bit too extreme about the whole topic. But I can't help it, it's how I feel about it and I just can't bring myself to accept this new A-Team concept where many basics are so different from what was established in the show.
I'm willing to accept it as a random, maybe even good, action film - but not as related to 'my' A-Team, sorry.
Aside from that, I like your idea. A-Team: the next generation is something I could have accepted. New faces, new names, but still some hints and connections to the original team. That would have been different. Yes, I like that. The kids of our guys, maybe even one girl amongst them, with a new background but continuing the Team's work of helping the people in need. Hmmm. Yes. ;D
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Post by 80sguy on Jun 22, 2010 14:43:04 GMT -5
One thing that aggravates me (although I read it on another forum) is that something I "feared" has happened.....someone wrote that now we have a plausible reason why B.A. is afraid of flying. Maybe she was only referring to the B.A. of the movie, but it seemed maybe as if she was implying that the movie B.A.'s experience is the same as what Mr. T's B.A. would have had. This was one thing I did not want to happen and why I wish they had just changed all the characters, so that people would not assume the way the characters met in the movie is the same way that the characters of the series actually met! Nah. Keeping the same characters is essential to the story. Even if the cast is different, if they weren't the same characters it'd be hard to consider them The A-Team since there is only one A-Team. This is the one reason why Extreme Ghostbusters never caught on as well, it was a different team with the only remaining character being Egon. I wouldn't let that get to you though, because some people just don't know how to separate cannons and universes. Also, Dwight Schutlz has posted his opinion about the movie on his website. --- Dwight's opinion about the A-team movie June 22nd. 2010 You probably read it in all kinds of (internet) articles: speculations about the opinions of the original actors from the series about the A-team movie. Some even stated that Dwight refused to give any comment. Dwight just hasn't given his opinion yet because he first wanted to SEE the film before sharing his opinion about it. He has seen it now and this is his official statement that he wants to share with you through his fansite: I am too close to the A-TEAM TV series to consider myself objective or to write a proper critique, so I ask you to take into consideration that I loved working on the show, and no matter how heartbreaking I found working on it at times, I am indebted to Stephen Cannell and Frank Lupo who both gave me a life changing opportunity. The Film ,THE A-TEAM , is about twenty light years away from the series. Over and over again I heard from a variety of sources, that the movie would be "gritty" ,"real", "not corny", "big" ,"violent" , and "people would get killed " It appears that these descriptors were accurate and had the intended effect on THE A-TEAM. The film pays homage to the series while it eschews its essential working premise: a band of capable military brothers for hire determined to save underdog and usually poor civilians from scum. But wait! The point is... this is not the TV series. It's a well shot wave of action, with hilarity, modest sex, violence and well played bad guys that you want to see tied up with shrink rap. Brian Bloom, co-writer and central villain clearly got to pen his own lines. Interesting! Check out that car scene! The team characters are sufficiently different and, with so many roles reversed from the original, one could say they are not really derivative, save for their names. The exception is the brilliant Sharlto Copley as Murdock. He is faithful to the original, but at the same time is big screen twisted and right at home with the new team. I saw the film with a packed house and the audience applauded, laughed and were all smiles as they filed out of the theater. The only major criticism that I will let slip is the decision by such a creative team not to use Mike Post's great music theme....one of the absolute best..to jump start the film.....The audience would have screamed in delight. Dwight
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Post by amyk on Jun 22, 2010 15:04:07 GMT -5
But see, I feel like you prove my point by saying there is only one A-Team.....and that is either the team that fought in VietNam and then went on to the Los Angeles Underground in 1972 or it is the team that is in the movie. Otherwise, to me, it is a different team - unless they were time traveling into the year 2010 somehow. Just like the new crew of the Enterprise was still the crew of the Enterprise, but they were different characters in a different time period, I could accept that there would be another team that called even called themselves the A-Team. In fact, that could have been a cute nudge to the original series if they had said something like "remember that crazy group of guys from the Vietnam era who called themselves the A-Team?" and then decided to take up that name themselves. Shoot, they could have even then met DS and DB as Murdock and Face somehow, a la Dr. McCoy being in the pilot ST:TNG episode.
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Post by amyk on Jun 22, 2010 15:10:34 GMT -5
I appreciate Dwight's review of the movie. I may be wrong, but I have a suspicion he did not like the movie as well as the fans who have seen it did.....the clue is when he writes: "the only major criticism that I will let slip" - to me, that means he has more criticisms but he is probably too nice a guy to voice them, which is actually a good thing, I think (although I admit I would really like to know if he has other criticisms what they are!). I I bet if DB writes a review, he will just write exactly what he thinks without being so polite! Then again, maybe he would love the movie (but I doubt it, knowing how he feels about the new BSG).
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2010 18:25:23 GMT -5
Mr.T and DS have both mentioned about sex being involved in the new movie but all I saw was a kiss here and there LOL
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Post by 80sguy on Jun 22, 2010 19:03:49 GMT -5
But see, I feel like you prove my point by saying there is only one A-Team.....and that is either the team that fought in VietNam and then went on to the Los Angeles Underground in 1972 or it is the team that is in the movie. Otherwise, to me, it is a different team - unless they were time traveling into the year 2010 somehow. Not really. By one A-Team, I mean only one set of characters that can be The A-Team. I'm thinking of this alternatively. I guess I'm taking my experience with the Ghostbusters franchise into this. There have been quiet a few spin offs of Ghostbusters, but the majority of them involve the same characters, the only difference may be that they look different (for obvious reasons due to likeness rights) and they're voiced by different actors, but that never took the charm away from it or the experience.
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Post by HoudiniDerek on Jun 22, 2010 19:30:30 GMT -5
I actually worked on a spec script that had it updated with new names, but similar personalities for the characters. Plus, I had the original three back in their familiar guises. It was along the lines of the series more where they were helping the underdogs and fighting against the MPs. Of course, the movie got made first. To me, it doesn't matter. Watching the movie won't change the A-TEAM for me. I love the series and I always will. If I watch the movie again, I can like it without debasing the team I grew up loving. I agree though that the movie should have used the great theme song work of Mike Post.
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Post by amyk on Jun 23, 2010 7:39:02 GMT -5
It's my understanding that the theme song does appear at the end credits?
Also, it seemed like they made a big deal that the van was going to be back, but my understanding is that it was in something like five minutes of the movie. (Of course, being me, I'm glad, because that van only belongs with "my" team!) ;D
I'm curious to know what some of you others think of DS' review?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2010 8:50:34 GMT -5
not sure if you noticed, the red strip on the van was slightly different to the original, but it does suck that we only saw it for a few minutes. Most of the trailer of the movie happens in the first 20 mins of the film, a bit odd.
I feel DS review was fair, he is from a different generation so he probably has a hard time with what is accepted in today's films and especially altering HIS series even slightly.
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Post by mizhowlinmad on Jun 23, 2010 9:51:20 GMT -5
I just read DS' review. Nice of him to do that. ;D IMO, I think he's being the consummate diplomat. It's good that he found so many positive things to mention about the original and the movie. That's probably the way to go. One thing that leaped out at me was his line about how working on the show was "heartbreaking" at times. I wonder what he meant by that? If the only "major criticism" he had was the decision to replace the original theme music, maybe he did have more. For the record, the original theme music is used at the end credits but not the beginning. Personally I didn't think the movie was either too violent or too racy or too profane. I just didn't think it was *fun* enough (and you can be fun without being "campy" or "corny.") In short, it made me smile, but it didn't make me smile in the same way that the series does. I can accept it as an alternative version, but never as the actual guys. There's still only one A-Team for me. ;D
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Post by mizhowlinmad on Aug 19, 2010 14:10:22 GMT -5
Fun, fun Movie Murdock tribute! (And my favorite bit in the whole movie.)
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Post by docroesgirl555 on Aug 19, 2010 14:17:30 GMT -5
This made me laugh so hard that it hurt where my incisions from surgery are. I love this video and it's Murdocks best part besides when he knocks BA out with the drugs.
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Post by celine on Aug 19, 2010 15:24:08 GMT -5
That was funny! LOL.
My favorite part in the movie was when the girl says, "No. They're trying to FLY the tank."
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Post by docroesgirl555 on Aug 19, 2010 16:41:24 GMT -5
I almost forgot about that part but the scene goes like this: The soldier guy: What are they doing? Girl(can't remember the name): They're trying to land a tank.
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